6/30/2005

E85
Filed under: Technology, General — nobrainer @ 1:10 pm

After reading this story about a topless woman, I noticed the link to another article about the increasing interest in ethanol as a fuel.

E85 is a blend that is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. The article notes that many of today’s cars can run on this blend. Furthermore, it notes that per gallon you save about 45 cents.

Of course, E85 isn’t taxed at 18.4 cents per gallon like gasoline.

Of course, 44 cents of every gallon is subsidized by the government.

Of course, ethanol doesn’t work well in cold environments.

Of course, you can expect to lose 5 to 15% fuel efficiency (or maybe more) using the blend.

Of course, most states don’t tax E85 like gasoline.

Using the average gasoline price of $2.24 provided in the article, and the 45 cent savings E85 is $1.79 per gallon. I’ll assume that state gas taxes are part of the actual cost of a gallon of gasoline and that there is an average 10% efficiency loss. Correcting for the other factors I listed above, gas is $2.056/gallon and E85 is $2.48/gallon.

Of course, since road funding comes from gas taxes, E85 will have to eventually be taxed instead of surplused.

Of course, I imagine most of the corn being used to produce the E85 is the leftover that no one wants to eat and is very cheap. So a huge increase of demand will make it even more expensive.

I’ll add onto and update this post later tonight as I should be preparing for a 2 o’clock meeting right now. I managed to dig up more interesting information on this alternative fuel source and its side effects that I’d like to summarize for you, my loyal readers.

Add-OnsFrom the World of Molecules

Critics contend that it is economically absurd to consider ethanol from grain as a replacement for petroleum, when industrial ethanol is made from petroleum feedstocks because it is far cheaper than fermented ethanol.

The Brazilian experiment
In Brazil, ethanol is produced from sugar cane—which is a more efficient source of fermentable carbohydrates than corn, and much easier to grow and process. Sugarcane growing requires little labor, and government tax and pricing policies have made ethanol production a very lucrative business for big farms. As a consequence, over the last 25 years sugarcane has become one of the main crops grown in the country.

The cane is pressed, fermented, and distilled at large ethanol plants, typically owned and run by big farms or farm consortia, and located near the producing fields. The stalk fibers (bagasse) which are left over from sugarcane processing are regularly used as fuel by the refineries, thus reducing the production costs. The bulk product is sold at regulated prices to the state oil company (Petrobrás).

Most cars run either on alcohol or on gasohol; only recently have dual-fuel engines become available. The market share of the two types has varied a lot over the last decades, in response to fuel price changes (which are fixed by the government, largely for political reasons). Most gas stations sell both fuels.

The Brazilian ethanol-for-fuel program significantly reduced the country’s oil import bill, and noticeably improved the air quality in big cities. However, it also brought a host of environmental and social problems of its own. Sugarcane fields are traditionally burned just before harvest, in order to remove the leaves and kill snakes. Therefore, in sugarcane-growing parts of the country, the smoke from burning fields turns the sky gray throughout the harvesting season. As winds carry the smoke into nearby towns, air pollution goes critical and respiratory problems soar. Thus, the air pollution which was removed from big cities was merely transfered (and multiplied) to the rural areas. (This practice has been decreasing of late, due to pressure from the public and health authorities; but the powerful sugarcane growers’ lobby has managed to prevent a total ban.)

The ethanol program also led to widespread replacement of small farms and varied agriculture by vast seas of sugarcane monoculture, leading to a decrease in biodiversity and further shrinkage of the residual native forests (not only from deforestation but also through fires caused by the burning of adjoining fields). The replacement of food crops by the more lucrative sugarcane has also led to a sharp increase in food prices over the last decade.

Since sugarcane only requires hand labor at harvest time, this shift also created a large population of destitute migrant workers, who can only find temporary employment as cane cutters (at about US$3–5 per day) for one or two months every year. This huge social problem has contributed to political unrest and violence in rural areas, which are now plagued by recurrent farm invasions, vandalism, armed confrontations, and assassinations.

collapse Brad Says:

Yes folks he has no life….as proven by the calculations stated in this article. Weren’t we supposed to get you hitched online or somethin?!

 
 
collapse Katie Says:

Something tells me we’ll be seeing lots of gasoline-related ER visits if this goes thru…

collapse nobrainer Says:

Are you trying to tell me that drinking E85 would be much worse than say, Everclear?

Actually, though, I wonder how difficult it would be seperate E85 into ethanol and gasoline. Think about it - a gallon of pure alcohol for a couple of bucks? Nice.

collapse Katie Says:

Hmm…cheap liquor. Seems like there’d be a boiling point something or another…

 
 
 
collapse Jeremy Says:

I quit reading after I saw “topless women” and scrolled down the page–only to find no topless women. I’m disappointed.

 
collapse evan Says:

Well, I think the ethanol option would only be feasible if we devised a way to produce it easily on a small scale. For instance if everyone could have a compost fermentation tank system installed in their kitchen I think it could work. Not only would you have an incentive to buy more fruits and vegetables, but you’d be saving yourself $$ on the trip to work. Hell, average people could supplement their incomes with larger fermentation tanks and pipelines. With a little effort and an efficient vehicle, your transportation could be completely self sufficient. Of course, it would also be nice if solar cell (photovoltaic) roof shingles were cheaper.

 
collapse nobrainer Says:

I doubt that ethanol is that difficult to make at a small level. The problem is that I doubt anyone could be self sufficient. Each driver would need like 10-15 gallons a week. I would imagine that each person could maybe make a gallon or two per week. How much work are you willing to do to save $4.50 a week?

 
collapse evan Says:

That was my point… it’d have to be minimal “work.” Like putting your food in the garbage disposal that goes to your fermentation tank. Or throwing your leaf litter into a bin that pipes out fermentable mash to a central tank. Or some sort of septic filter contraption.

Argg.. this would require the storage of highly flamable liquids and probably be a political nightmare when some stupid kid launches a bottle rocket too close to an ethanol line or something. Nevermind, I strike this idea from the record and opt for a more centralized system. However, I think it would be a good idea to utilize a diverse pool of fermentable material that could be contributed from various popular sources as opposed to surplus corn or something like that. It would fire up some feelings of civic responsiblity (like recycling) and also take some of the pressure off the markets.

 
collapse Bob from the ALAMN Says:

Dear No Brain: “Ethanol doesn’t work well in cold environments?” Didn’t you notice that the story came from Minnesota, the E85 Capital of North America? What is the source of your info?

Consider this story:
http://www.alamn.org/Media/PressRelease.asp?0121FrozenCorn.asp

Those seeking better information on biofuels are welcome to visit this site, maintained by the American Lung Association of Minnesota: www.CleanAirChoice.org

collapse nobrainer Says:

I’m going to have to think out my policy on people posting who are related to a particular site. I guess as long as it is posted on topic, I won’t consider it spam. So thanks for the input, Bob.

I’ll get through all those links in due time. I also apologize for a lack of references… something which I will improve upon if I actually find consistent outside readership.

Indeed, I believe I screwed up on the freezing point issue. I’ll stand by the rest of my argument.

PS. My nickname is Nobrainer. It is neither No Brain, nor No Brains.

 
 
 
collapse Bob from the ALAMN Says:

Sorry, Nobrainer. No offense intended…I’m known in some blog circles as Mr. Lungs (I’ve been called a lot of other names I won’t repeat here). My real name is:

Robert Moffitt
Communications Director
American Lung Association of Minnesota

 
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